How sad, God has given his church...

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How sad, God has given his church beautiful free nations economically prosperous nations, good educational systems, working and commerce opportunities, growth in all its forms, hope, values, careers, abundance, nations flowing with milk and honey. They became good Christian nations, where his Word once was truly in God we Trust. It all began as God prophecied, but with time, his church has corrupt itself because instead of standing up to defend as unshakable soldiers this earth which is the kingdom of God, his church has mingled with its own enemies. Jesus mentions this in the letters of the book of Revelation, the two churches he loved, Smyrna and Philadelphia for a specific reason because they discerned those who said to be from the Synagogue of God but in reality were from the Synagogue of Satan and they still are today but the church of Jesus, a majority of the churches, do not have the discernment of God or they do not want to have it. God says his people are sottish, they are dying because of lack of his knowledge.

This world is deteriorating as days go by and the church keeps sleeping. We need a spiritual major wake up call of God’s church to inform people of what is coming soon in our nations, may our Heavenly Father God have pity of this senseless generation that is gradually dying because of the lack of the Word of God. May his grace and mercy surabound on all the evil that is daily abounding…may God protect you and bless you together with your family…in Jesus name we need to pray without ceasing our Heavenly Father God and Jesus our Savior to deliver us from evil…amen :folded_hands:

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Please read this carefully. God’s Kingdom is not this earth, dear sister. The Bible, the only authorized, HOLY Bible, the 1611 King James Bible scrupulously transcribed and preserved by God, says that the kingdoms of this current world belong to SATAN. God is ultimately in control but He has given this world to Satan.

Satan offers it to Jesus saying to Him, “All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.” Matthew 4:9 KJV. How could Satan offer Jesus the world if he didn’t already control it? Satan said to Jesus in another Gospel, " for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it." Luke 4:6 KJV.

That which the church in this age is lacking is common Biblical knowledge. Most of the so- called Christians in this world today do NOT rightly divide the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15) and this has caused a GREAT misunderstanding of God’s timeline, His Will AND the very soon appearing of Jesus Christ (not His coming; His feet do not touch the earth at His appearing. Titus 2:13 His “second coming” will be with His Saints - US – (Revelation 19:14) we who loved Him and were REMOVED and this will happen 7 years AFTER the “catching away of the saints” (1 Thessalonians 4:16; 1 Corinthians 15:51; Isaiah 26:19-20) from this earth PRIOR to the 70th week of Daniel (9:24) or the time of Great Tribulation where God will pour out His WRATH on this world for its rejection of Jesus Christ.

God has been mostly silent in this age, the Age of Grace but it is about to come to a screeching halt when millions of people, all born again, saved and sanctified people and all small children and babies, EVEN from the womb (!) will suddenly disappear. Chaos will ensue, in extremes not seen by the eyes of man since the Flood of Noah and the church in this age largely IGNORES THIS. I have debated this with Brandon, the moderator of this blog because he also denies the Rapture of the church (Harpazo).

This is not a matter to be taken lightly. This is the next big thing on God’s Timeline after 2000 years of silence as He offered Salvation FREE, hence the Age of Grace. Many will be saved after the Harpazo but it will not be free any longer. One will have to do WORKS to be saved! They will have to “work” to resist taking the mark of the beast, they will have to hide, being persecuted and killed and most incredible of all, they will, if they survive the events of the Tribulation when BILLIONS will die, have their heads removed by guillotine.

The resistance of the church to acknowledge the Rapture, even the scorn and ridicule of the next event on God’s calendar, towards those (like me) who have STUDIED and do rightly divide His word of truth increases as the event draws closer as does the importance of knowing this truth. I used to be uncertain about the time of the Rapture until I resolved in myself to STUDY, for myself, the King James Bible until I came to the ultimate TRUTH of the matter and that truth is 100% SOLID for those who desire to know it. I had asked God to HELP me understand this truth so I could share it with others. He showed me the purple line of silk woven throughout the tapestry of Scripture. The Rapture is even mirrored in the ancient, Jewish (Galilean) wedding ceremony including after the betrothal or engagement, the “going away” until an unknown time, known only by the groom’s father, to prepare a place for he and his wife to live – an addition onto the father’s house! At the proper time, the father will then tell the son, go get your bride and he will whisk her away to his father’s house, her new home. So many types and shadows of the Rapture exist in His written word and history. AND, if we were to endure the tribulation, why doesn’t Paul, our apostle, tell us anything about enduring it? Instead, after describing the Rapture, he says, “wherefore, comfort one another with these words. 1 Thessalonians 4:18.

And that truth is coming like a speeding freight train and will take this world, even most of its “church” by storm. STUDY this matter dear sister so that you can help share it with others. There is truly very little time left. It could be a matter of life eternal or damnation to others! People who are completely ignorant of the Bible and God’s Plan for our Salvation may refuse to believe the Gospel if they learned (falsely) that they would have to live through the time of tribulation, described in Revelation 8-10 and Isaiah 24 for starters. I know I wouldn’t seek God if I were an unbeliever and thought that He is going to pour out His WRATH full strength on His children! So, in essence, when you share the Gospel and leave out the Rapture, the absolute greatest event in two thousand years, you are doing harm to the Cause of Christ! Yes, it’s that important. I’m not saying one needs to believe the truth of the Rapture to be saved, but belief in, by rightly dividing the word of truth may help OTHERS to be saved.

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Where does it say babies in the womb will be raptured? I haven’t ever seen that word in my Bible

7 year tribulation? I thought Jesus cut it short?
Matthew 24:21-22
[21]For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
[22]And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

What is wrong with the Complete Jewish Bible translation?

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Neither does it say that children under the age of accountability would be raptured but we use our common sense that God gave us. There are thousands of items of truth which are not spelled out in Scripture but can be assessed by the text. It’s a common practice of hermeneutics called, “exegesis”. Children are the most innocent of God’s creation, especially infants and the unborn. Life begins at conception, I think that we can safely assume that, right? Where specifically does it say this in Scripture? It does not but we are given enough information about the topic throughout the Bible for example Psalm 139 explains all of this.

Yes, Jesus did cut the tribulation short but we know from the Book of Daniel that 70 weeks had been appointed unto the Jews and their last week is the 70th week or 7 years. Read and study Daniel chapter 9. Jesus said he cut the DAYS short. There is no way of determining how many days or how much time is referenced here but the tribulation period lasts seven years according to Scripture.

The Complete Jewish Bible Translation (CJB) is just another alphabet “version” for sale on the world market. ALL new Bible versions were created to SELL and it’s a billion dollar business. The KJV is FREE, as God intended it to be and it has NO copyright. It may be quoted and reproduced freely. From what I have seen of the CJB I recognized quickly that it wasn’t translated from the 1611 AV KJV but was translated using the new versions (and much ad lib as well; see the CJB text of John 3:16) which all come from the Alexandrian, Gnostic texts in the OT and Codex Vaticanus in the NT.

The KJV came from the Hebrew Masoretic text and the Textus Receptus in the Greek New Testament. The new Bible version debate is lengthy and very involved. It’s a study of history which is ongoing and although I initially began my quest for the truth about this matter in 2009, I am continually learning the depths of this truth. God PRESERVED His written word and that word is, for the people of the Age of Grace, the King James Bible.

And, I must say that the most important part of my comment has gone unaddressed. It’s about the 70th week of Daniel, specifically the BEGINNING of that 70th week or the event that kicks it off… the RAPTURE. The English word Rapture isn’t in the Bible either but Harpazo (Greek) and Rapturo (Latin) is. Nonetheless it is rock solid truth by the text.

I am willing to debate any Biblical topic but let us go in order, shall we? I am a mature Christian who rightly divides the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15) and I have been studying the Bible for more than 45 years. I know what the Bible says because I STUDY it. My roots are in it and anything that ANY pastor or teacher says must be put through the test of the KJV and there are many more FALSE teachers out there today than good, solid, KJV Bible preaching pastors. (that’s not to say that any who do not use the KJV are false teachers, just stubborn, e.g. JD Farag)

So, what say you about the Rapture? Note: The comment to which you responded was written to a woman, Lucy Forte. I always double check so that I can address the person as either brother or sister. I don’t know where her comment went (this thread is difficult to use sometimes).

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That’s cool i study the Bible also my self and i don’t follow anyone

I enjoy to study deep

So if i don’t believe in the rapture but I’m a follower of Jesus and do his will, do i get raptured?

What verses are harpizo and rapturo in?

I love to rightly divide the word

What topic would you like to talk about next?

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Well john lept in the womb when be was near Jesus so that’s a verse about that.

What’s your thoughts on king James being a free mason?

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If you are born again by the Spirit of God and He has put a new spirit in you and saved you from your sins, all of them, by your faith in His Shed Blood, you WILL go up in the Rapture, whether you believe the doctrine of the rapture or not. You will be taken up to be with Jesus and all your brothers and sisters in Christ, me included and this will happen so very soon now. Harpazo: Here you go…G726 - harpazō - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv) You can read all about it.

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King James was a CHRISTIAN man. A Protestant during the Reformation and he is a brother in Christ. All of the lies about him, that he was a sodomite, freemason, et. al are just attacks against those who HATE the KJV and ultimately hate God and what do those who hate God do? They attack His written word.

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Ok cool I’ll check it out

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Yea alot of history is twisted. Hard to know who to believe. George Washington was a freemason its on his statue. I can’t see him being a good man.

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You asked me in a previous comment, “What topic would you like to talk about next?” And I didn’t answer, but harkening back to my first comment on this thread, I would think it would be obvious. I want to discuss the RAPTURE with ANYONE who would like to jump in and debate me.

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I’ll ask one question.

Those who don’t believe in the rapture, if there is one, will they be going along?

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That would be the “stand-by” rapture.

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If they have been saved, having had their sins removed by FAITH and belief in the Gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and in the Shed Blood of Jesus Christ and believe in their hearts that this one act of God was completely sufficient to save them from their sins, they will be going whether they believe the doctrine of the Rapture (imminence) or not.

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“Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.” Luke 6:26 KJV. The world loves its own. George Washington was indeed a Freemason as were most of the founding fathers of this country. The city of Washington DC is laid out in the form of the Masonic square and compass. This world belongs to Satan who is the father of lies and the entirety of the truth lies beneath the surface however, most don’t make any effort to look for it. The history that we have all been taught, grade school through college, is mostly false, designed with an agenda which is a one world government for antichrist.

The “millions and millions of years” doctrine of the religion of Darwinism (evolution) is a complete fabrication which is held intact largely by RIDICULE. When examining the claims of the Darwinist, if one isn’t afraid of learning the truth, (which is completely contrary to the tightly held consensus) of this world - Darwinism - one quickly learns the truth. That truth is found in the Creation account in the Bible in the book of Genesis.

The controllers, i.e. the money printers, were looking for a NEW religion a couple hundred years after the foundation of this country and they found it in the writings of one Charles Darwin and to a lesser-known evolutionary pioneer, Jean-Baptiste Lamarck, who Darwin admired for his book “Philosophie Zoologique” which Charlie took with him on his journeys aboard the HMS Beagle.

I wrote a book about this called, Evolution: Fact or Fallacy, by Jeremiah C Maddox (pseudonym) and it’s loaded with truth. I have embraced the LOVE OF THE TRUTH (2 Thessalonians 2:10) to an extent that I am CONSUMED with it. Nobody stumbles upon the truth. The lies under the facade of the surface have been designed to prevent the people from searching for it. So much so that anyone who desires to know the truth must LOVE the truth. I put the truth above all things. John 14:6 KJV.

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We have to keep fighting against the son of perdition, he doesn’t rest nor day nor night.
The word doesn’t exist in The Bible, there is not “rapture”. And more so, Christ will arrive in a whirlwind, and put his feet on Mount of Olives.
Zechariah 14:4 - And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

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Then debating the rapture is a waste of time. Just like the chicken or the egg. If the rapture is true, then we will all be gone together. If it is not, the rapture believers will be running for the tin foil.

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Apparently, you didn’t read my original comment to Lucy Forte yet alone look up the verses I included PROVING what I say. So, if you’re honest enough, and willing to man up, let’s debate one verse at a time. If you do this with me, you WILL come away KNOWING that the Rapture, although not spelled out in Scripture, (but Rapturo and Harpazo, which reference the same event definitely are spelled out) is absolute, solid Bible doctrine and those that do not believe it, for whatever reason, will be SURPRISED at that day and ASHAMED before God! (2 Timothy 2:15)
So, let us begin with the go-to verse for the Rapture in the New Testament, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18;
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them IN THE CLOUDS, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words. (KJV Emphasis mine)
I emphasized IN THE CLOUDS and in the air because THAT is where Jesus is when He comes for us. His feet do NOT touch the ground at the Harpazo and He doesn’t send His angels to the four corners nor does “every eye see Him” at this time. The Rapturo and the Second Coming of Christ are clearly TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS.

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Ill debate you on creation vs by vs I’m man enough.

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Let’s get to that scripture!