The “STARS” are symbolic for FALLEN ANGELS in those verses! I thought I made that clear? “…I beheld Satan as lightening FALL FROM HEAVEN…” Luke 10:18-20, “And his tail drew a third part of the STARS…!” Rev. 12:4, “And the Stars of heaven FELL…!” Rev. 6:13 in relation to Matt. 24:29. This has already happened! Jude 6.
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Now read Rev. 1 carefully and notice the “STARS” and “ANGELS” mentioned in Rev. 1:16-20. Now notice The Lord tells John to WRITE A LETTER to each of the “ANGELS” of the seven Churches! Who are THESE ANGELS? (Hebrews 1:14, Matt. 22:30, Gal. 2:20, Romans 6;3-10, Hebrews 12:22-24, Joel 2:1, Rev. 21:9-11, Rev. 22:17, John 17:18-20, Matt. 5:13-16, Luke 10:20, Rev. 1:6, 1:9, Rev. 22:8-9).
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If you KNOW that Jesus Christ “IS COME IN THE FLESH” then you should also know Gal. 2:20 and “that man of sin” (Romans 7:24-25) HAS BEEN REVEALED TO YOU (2nd Thess. 2:3-4) to you and YOU HAVE SEEN “the Abomination of Desolation” (Matt. 24:15-18, Luke 17:32-37, Luke 9:62). “Whoever DOES NOT take up his cross (“As Moses lifted up the SERPENT…!” John 3:14) and FOLLOW ME (Romans 12:1) IS NOT WORTHY OF ME!” Luke 10:38.
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“KNOW YE NOT…?” Romans 6:3-4, 2nd Cor. 13:5, Gal. 2:20. The word Hebrews means “Crossed Over” Hebrews 12:22-24, 1st Cor. 2:1-14-16. The "Mark of the beast has nothing to do with “a shot” or DNA! “Except a man be born again…!”, “Flesh and blood cannot enter into the Kingdom of God!” I am willing to explain even further, however, you will need to be willing to receive the Gospel of Jesus Christ which also means you must be willing to let go of believing many FALSE TEACHINGS which false teachers and those who think they know the truth and DO NOT teach! If you read this post carefully you will notice that this teaching places everything in the future which misled teachers have been doing for centuries! “In THESE LAST DAYS!” (Hebrews 1:1-2), “It IS THE LAST HOUR!” (1st John 2:18), “THIS is THAT!” (Acts 2:16-17, Joel 2:1-2-9-32, 2nd Peter 3:8), “For THE TIME IS COME!”(1st Peter 4:17-19) were ALL PENNED about 2000 years ago as well as “MUST SHORTLY come to pass” (Rev. 1:1-3) and “TRULY I TELL YOU, This generation SHALL NOT PASS till ALL THESE THINGS BE FULFULLED!” Matt. 24:3-32-34, “AT THE DOOR!” (Rev. 3:20). I submit to you these teachers DO NOT understand the Scriptures!
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"If any man worship the Beast ("is this the man…?’ Isaiah 14:16-18, Isaiah 14:13, Gen. 3:1, Matt. 13:38, “…SHOWING HIMSELF that he is God…!”(2nd Thess. 2:3-4, Romans 7:24-25, “it is the number of a man” Rev. 13:18, “That man of sin”—“Even him IN THEM THAT PERISH!” 2nd Thess. 2:3-9-12, Matt. 24:15-18), “THEY received not the love of the TRUTH!” 2nd Thess. 2:9-12, “THERE ARE MANY!” (1st John 2:18) “IN THESE LAST DAYS!” (Hebrews 1:1-2- penned 2000 years AGO!) who have not crossed over the Jordan! “But ye…!” (Hebrews 12:22-24), IF you have been Born again!
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I also read in this thread that people are still waiting for the “Millenium” REIGN of Jesus Christ. Apparently, these same people DO NOT BELIEVE the Very Words of Jesus Christ? “ALL POWER HAS BEEN Given UNTO ME In Heaven AND in Earth!” (Matt. 28:18). “I AM The Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending (John 1:1-3, Isaiah 46:9-10, Rev. 21:5-6, Hebrews 10:38, “NOW!” Hebrews 11:1, “NOW!” 2nd Cor. 6:2), saith The Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, THE ALMIGHTY!” (Rev. 1:8). “…HAS made us kings and Preist!” Rev. 1:6, “…IN TRIBULATION (Rev. 1:9, Acts 14;22, John 16:33), AND IN THE KINGDOM (Col. 1:13, Eph. 2:6, Hebrews 12:22-24, Rev. 21:9-11, Rev. 22:17, John 17:18-20)…!” Rev. 1:9.
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There are so many Scriptures that people who say they are Believers DO NOT BELIEVE!
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Definition: Apostasy, rebellion, defection, falling away
Usage: The term “apostasia” refers to a departure or defection from a previously held position, often in the context of religious faith. In the New Testament, it is used to describe a falling away from the truth or a rebellion against God. It implies a deliberate abandonment of faith or a turning away from previously held beliefs.
That IS NOT what is meant by these Scriptures! 1st John 2:19, “INCORRUPTABLE SEED!” 1st Peter 1;23-25, Eph. 1:2-7, Eph. 2:8-9, 1st Peter 1:20. See previous comments to others! John 10:28-30.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Ok so do you believe in the firmament?
So what was the mark of the beast? If it happened you should be able to show me. I got nothing from what you said
The MARK of the Beast is “the number of a man” who received NOT the love of the truth that he might be saved" (2nd Thess 2:2-9-12), but rather is “showing HIMSELF that he is God” (2nd Thess. 2:3-4), and THAT is “the Abomination of Desolation” (Matt. 24;15-18) which Paul; saw “When YOU SEE…!” (Matt. 24:15-18, “O wretched man that I AM…!” (Romans 7:22-24, "I conferred NOT with flesh and Blood…! (Gal. 1:15-17), or "I DID NOT "come down to take anything out of my house (the old man who was dead in trespasses and sin Gal. 2:20) or return back to the field to take my old clothes which are filthy rags (Matt. 24:17-18, Matt. 17:32-33, Luke 9:620) but rather I fled to the MOUNTAINS! (Matt. 24:15, Hebrews 12:22-24, Ezekiel 7:16, 1st Cor. 2:14-16, Matt. 13:10-11), as I was instructed to “OBSERVE ALL THINGS…!”(Matt. 28:20).
WHAT DAY shall not come? (Acts 2:16-17, Joel 2:1-2-9-32, 2nd Peter 3:8, 1st Thess. 5:1-5-Please read carefully! That DAY comes “as a thief IN THE NIGHT to THEM…!” But YOU are not children of the NIGHT! See Joel 2:2-9 “as a thief to THEIR WINDOWS!” (Isaiah 60:8, “THE CLOUDS ARE the dust of HIS FEET!” Nahum 1:3, Matt. 10:16, “COMING IN the CLOUDS of Heaven with POWER…!” Matt. 24:30, Acts 1:8, Rev. 11:3-4-5-10, Luke 10:18-20, “You HAVE COME to Mount Sion!” Hebrews 12:22-24, Col. 1:13, Eph. 2:6, Rev. 21:9-11, John 17:18-20-26, John 17:14-26, Rev. 22:17, 1st Cor. 12:27).
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That DAY shall not come unless there come a “FALLING AWAY FIRST!” (Matt. 16:17, “CANNOT SEE…!” John 3:3-8, Hebrews 12:22-24, Col. 1:13, Eph. 2:6, 1st Peter 1:23-25). “SCALES FELL from Saul’s eyes!” Acts 9:18, Romans 7:24-25.
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“By the COMING of our Lord, AND our GATHERING TOGETHER (2nd Thess. 2:1, Hebrews 12:22-24, “THERE AM I IN THE MIDST!”, " I WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU…!”,…“THAT DAY shall not come until there come a falling away (SCALES from eyes! You must be born again! I WAS BLIND but NOW I SEE! THIS IS THAT! Acts 2;16-17, Joel 2:1-2-9-32) first!”
Well, that was all very confusing Steve. After all of that I’m not really even sure of your point anymore. My advice for you is maybe just be prepared for what Brandon has said to us in this very well written article of his. You know just in case he is rightly dividing the Word.
I for one know it goes down like that “It is written”.
Steve you didn’t answer me?
2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
Subject of discussion to the brethren is the “coming of the Lord”
Coming = From the present participle of G3918; a being near, that is, advent (often, return; specifically of Christ to punish Jerusalem, or finally the wicked); (by implication) physical aspect: - coming, presence.
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
At hand = From G1722 and G2476; to place on hand, that is, (reflexively) impend, (participle) be instant: - come, be at hand, present.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
What day? The coming of Christ.
Falling away = Feminine of the same as G647; defection from truth (properly the state), (“apostasy”): - falling away, forsake.
First = Neuter of G4413 as an adverb (with or without G3588); firstly (in time, place, order, or importance): - before, at the beginning, chiefly, (at, at the) first (of all).
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Revealed = From G575 and G2572; to take off the cover, that is, disclose: - reveal.
There are 2 people in scripture who are referred to as the “son of perdition”. Judas and the Antichrist. There are many antichrists, (1 John 2:18) but only 2 with that label.
Judas never sat in the temple or called himself God; he hung from a rope.
It is never right for a human being to label another person a “son of perdition” because only God knows the ultimate future of each human soul.
Who was Jesus referring to if not Judas Iscariot in John 17:12? And did Jesus not say that the Scripture WAS FULFILLED in that very same Scripture? “God DOES NOT DWELL in temples made with hands!” Acts 7:47-49, 17:22-24, 2nd Thess. 2:5, Hebrews 2:1-2, Romans 7:24, 1st Cor. 3:16-17, Matt. 24:3-34, Isaiah 46:9-10, “IT IS DONE!” Rev. 21:1-6, 1st Cor. 2:14-16, 2nd Cor. 4:17-18, 2nd Cor. 13:5, Hebrews 13:5.
So Steve show me in history exactly which person was the anti christ. If it happen you should be able to give me times names and examples like king john james the 3rd from 103 to 185 was the anti christ. Here is a list of things he did ?
Revelation 7:14 “And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me , These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.”
If the tribulation has already transpired, then why are we not already in the eternity wearing our white robes?